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July 3 2011

"Life's a test. And you failed where it said 'name here'."

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"I want three points and a space, not four points... you raw piece of slow-cooked fucking sewage."
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I suppose STM was talking about an ellipsis? So, he wants "... " rather than "...."


  1. Nice to see STM inforcing an obscure point of punctuation there. A man after my own heart. :)

  2. How can it be raw and slow-cooked at the same time?

  3. Hahaha STM, I love you! Bloody brilliant you are!!! :) Cheers

  4. My first reaction about 3-point with space and 4-point was a geometrical thought. Three points are the minimum to define a flat plane. Four points would allow you to define a space. So STM wants a space without bothering with the 4th point? :)

  5. The first one is hilarious :)

  6. a fool~proof... testy LIFE3 July 2011 at 20:43

    ...hmmmm dot dot dot_
    "a smelly mess this sunny day here, namely not
    on four points to a diamond plate mound but, in
    STM's version to an irregularly~connected triangle
    in his entrance levelled mind" . . .just 2B different. . .if youth knew; if age could.

  7. Grammatically, STM is correct: an ellipsis is 3 periods!

  8. Is STM dddo'in a twist of his "You know, it's a human race. And you lost" ...well, that's life.

  9. An ellipsis at the end of a sentence gets 4 stops, because you have to end with a full stop. But an ellipsis never needs to be followed by a space.

  10. Depends on the grammatical rule your following. Some require a space between each dot and before and after the ellipsis. STM is clearly advocating the Bringhurts approach to ellipses.

    According to Robert Bringhurst's Elements of Typographic Style, the details of typesetting ellipsis depend on the character and size of the font being set and the typographer's preference. Bringhurst writes that a full space between each dot is "another Victorian eccentricity. In most contexts, the Chicago ellipsis is much too wide"—he recommends using flush dots, or thin-spaced dots (up to one-fifth of an em), or the prefabricated ellipsis character. Bringhurst suggests that normally, an ellipsis should be spaced fore-and-aft to separate it from the text, but when it combines with other punctuation, the leading space disappears and the other punctuation follows. This is the usual practice in typesetting. He provides the following examples:

    i ... j k.... l..., l l, ... l m…? n…!

  11. Well, sure, if there's a space before the ellipses, or spaces throughout, there should also be a space at the end. Look weird otherwise, wouldn't it? But if STM wants a space before the ellipses, or spaces throughout, he didn't mention it.

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